Peggy and Jenny Meet Their Online Pretend Best Friend


Peggy and Jenny Meet Their Online Pretend Best Friend – 048


In Episode 48, we share all the fun from our road trip to Detroit to see our online pretend best friend Gretchen Rubin and her sister Elizabeth Craft at their live Happier podcast event.

We were soooo excited about every part of this adventure and in this podcast you’ll hear some of our random conversation in the car on the way there and back as well as some audio that we recorded in the event itself!

The audio isn’t great because we were in the car and because I was using the microphone from my iPhone.  It’s still worth a listen though so check it out!


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What You’ll Hear (and don’t want to miss!)

1:08: Intro and an idea of what you’ll hear in this episode

2:36: Jenny and I chatting in the car on the way there.  We both discuss what we want to get out of the event and how we think it will go.

8:51: In the event: Gretchen shares a song on the ukulele which is one of the things on her list of 19 for 2019

11:52: In the event: I ask Gretchen and Liz to share a habit that they have been working on over the past 6 months that makes them a better human and they both give me their answers.

15:15: More chatting in the car on the way home.  We share the details of the event and what we got out of it.

29:05: We wrap it up for this week. Next week we will wrap up our month of no complaining and then we will discuss all of the excitement and celebration that are both coming up in June leading up to our 1 year anniversary of doing this podcast!


Resources + Links Mentioned in This Episode:


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Book: A Complaint Free World by Will Bowen

Website: Will Bowen; A Complaint Free World (this is where you can order the bracelets if you are so inspired)

Podcast:  Happier With Gretchen Rubin Episode 221 (this is the episode that Jenny and I were discussing in the car that included tips on how to take great photos)

Photos from the adventure:

In the car on the way there:

Waiting in line and feeling nervous:

Jenny, Gretchen, Peggy and Liz at the meet and greet!

Gretchen was a good sport about our t-shirts:

The back of our shirts:  Gretchen is my online pretend best friend 

Inside the event venue.  Waiting for the show to start:

Big excitement!

Big poster of Liz and Gretchen:

Jenny offering her happiness hack:

A bit blurry but shows us in the audience with Liz and Gretchen on stage:


Key Quotes:


 “I want to expect more from myself but also accept myself”-Gretchen Rubin while explaining why she will not continue with her ukulele pursuit.


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The Improvement Project podcast is hosted by Dr. Peggy Malone and Jenny Couse.  Peggy is a health care provider who encourages her patients every day to create better habits associated with their health and wellness.  She is wife to the hilarious and heavily bearded John, with whom she takes many adventures. Dr. Peggy is also a human being on a mission to create better habits for herself and by doing so, she hopes to inspire others to take up the challenge with her!  Jenny is a marketing professional in the international trade sector.  She and her husband Jeff are parents to hilarious 5 year old Ethan.  Her year of monthly habit resolutions in 2015 piqued her interests in how habits are created and best kept.

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Until next time,


Let’s get to work on improving your most important project.  That’s YOU!  Stay focused and get after it!

Thank you so much for listening.

Big Love,

Peggy and Jenny